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Post by President Logan on Aug 12, 2011 18:50:36 GMT -3
Ok so is anyone watching Summerslam this sunday? What do you think will happen?
I'm not quite caught up at the moment on WWE so don't really have much clue. I hope that Christian keeps the world championship and think CM Punk will keep the WWE but thats about all I can say.
What do you guys think?
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Post by TJ Black on Aug 12, 2011 20:53:13 GMT -3
I think Christian will defeat Randy Orton whether his "surprise" is some sort of cheating tactics or ifhe wins cleanly. With Edge slated for a SummerSlam appearance i'm gonna guess that Christian's "Biggest Thing Going" is Edge. Either that or he'll pull another Swagger and beat Orton cleanly...
Phoenix will obviously crush Kelly Kelly...
Sheamus vs. Mark Henry is a tough one considering that both men are receiving monster pushes right now. But honestly Henry is past his prime and Sheamus is the future of WWE. My guess it that all this badassery from Mark Henry was built up to have Sheamus defeat him in a power game...
CM Punk vs. John Cena is a little bit harder to figure out. Either Triple H will hit the Pedigree on CM Punk after Punk hits a GTS leading to Cena being unconscious and unaware that he "screwed" Punk. Or Cena will be aware of the Pedigree and will try to stop Trips leading to the cerebral hitting a Pedigree on Cena and giving Punk the win. On a sidenote this allows the feud ofa ll three to continue and even though i don't want Cena to win a Punk loss due to being screwd over by Trips could lead to Punk cutting antoher epic promo about the WWE going back to the status quo. Meanwhile Cena will have a beef with Triple H over him forcing Cena to screw Punk and Triple H will end up hating both posisbly allowing for either Cena/Trips or Trips/Punk to branch out.
As for additional matches, sicne no others have been announced I'm go out ona limb and predict that the Miz wil cut a promo jsut to stay on screen and dependant on the Mysterio Knee Injury if he's cleared to compete he will come out and an all out brawl will ensue but if he isn't then the Miz's attack still happened and Trips will probably come out and state that if he wants to wrestle he can face a random mid card face. Both situation I see Miz going over.
Dolph Ziggler vs. Alex Riley also seems likely to be added in similar ffashion to Kofi/Sheamus at Extreme Rules. Alex Riley will probably pick up the victory here considering the wave of pops he's been riding as of late and carry the mid-card. Meanwhile Dolph Ziggler will slowly begin a face turn and dump Vickie since his Mic Skills seem to be growing nad might even end up with a title shot (and loss) to CM Punk sometime.
Once CM Punk has dropped the title I see Dolph Ziggler (along with some other upper mid-card talent) to step up and challenge for it. Dolph Ziggler vs. Alberto Del Rio would be nice... So would John Morrison vs. The Miz or Rey Mysterio vs. Kofi Kingston...
Overall I tihnk WWE has failed. Too much emphasis on the world title pictures has pretty much made them forget about half a card...
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Post by President Logan on Aug 12, 2011 22:02:45 GMT -3
It's ridiculous how they've become all about the two championships. Even the US and IC seem pretty worthless now. It was so much better in the old days and whenever I watch it I hope that it will return to how it was. Everything about it seems to really annoy me. Cena, Orton, even the commentators aren't as good these days. :/
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Post by TJ Black on Aug 12, 2011 22:25:01 GMT -3
Yeah it's absolute BS now... I just hope that the WWE manage to pull out a half decent storyline with Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase for the IC Title. And hopefully someone can put some prestige back into the US Title seriously that tile is pathetic at the moment.The Miz held it for about 5 Months but NEVER defended it. Daniel Bryan had the exact same problem when he won it. Holding the title for 7 Months but only defending twice because your busy feuding with SmackDown's IC Champ isn't exactly great... After Bryan lost it it just seems like there playing pass the parcel... it's a goddam joke...
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Post by President Logan on Aug 12, 2011 22:39:13 GMT -3
Yeah there so worthless. And the mid-card and upper-card change too quickly. I mean they spent ages building up The Miz, even though I don't think he ever defended his title fairly, and now he loses to alex riley?! As much as I hate him, you can't just build someone up and then drop them. I mean since Cena won his first world championship not once has he even been considered for a second tier belt which annoys me also. But hey what can you do? I will never actually stop watching it but might not enjoy it.
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Post by TJ Black on Aug 12, 2011 22:55:02 GMT -3
You don't like The Miz? Huh...
Anyways, building up is the WWE problem they spent ages building up Miz and once he became WWE Champion people begun to take him seriously but when your booked to need Michael Cole AND Alex Riley's help to defeat a pensioner ina ladder match you know theres something wrong...
Just look at it this way. Edge was build up for 7 or 8 years before they gave himt he briefcase adn even after they continue to build his gimmick for the entirety of 2005 before he cashed in on Cena. He then defeated Ric Flair. But then they went adn gave the title abck to Cena for WrestleMania (why?). doesn't really matter though the match of the night was easily Mick Foley vs. Edge in a Hardcore Match. Then they continue to let Edge shine through as a threat teaming with Foley to decimate ECW and then spearing Cena through a table and cleanly winning a Triple Threat before holding onto the title for 4 months winning cleanly on MOST occasions and the Welcome Commite when he returned home to Toronto was epic... Shame they gave Cena the title back. Seriously wtf is WWE's problem they seem to think that being WWE Champion will suddenly generate more Merch Sales but it does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
WWE Champion John Cena vs. John Cena = Identical PPV Buys and Merchandise Profits. John Cena doesn't need the championship what he needs is to drop down like Jericho did and let the future shine through. Because in all honesty The Miz would've be a surefire main eventer IF he went over Cena cleanly at Mania and Orton at Royal Rumble. They did the sme thing with Sheamus in the 3 months he held the title he a. won it when Cena fell through a table b. got disqualified against Orton and c. lost the title at EC. I mean seriously!? WHy bother building a guy up like a freaking wrecking machine just to make him look like an ass 3 minutes later?
WWE really need to listen to the fans and hopefully that means a tag team division, a divas division and a mid-card. And WWE need to stop protecting there image. They depushed Drew McIntyre and fired his then-wife Tiffany over a small domestic problem occured in a Hotel. I mean for christ sake he went from in line for the world title to well in line to be squashed by Big Show...
And speaking of him why did he absolutely squash Jack Swagger? You put Swagger over Randy Orton cleanly put not over an "injured" Big Show WTF!?!?!?
Big Show = Career Killer
WWE = Goddamn idiots
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Post by President Logan on Aug 12, 2011 23:18:56 GMT -3
I TOTALLY AGREE with everything you say.
It's like the whole Mark Henry thing within two or three months everyone knows he'll disappear into superstars or have a few small matches on Raw. WWE protect guys like Orton and Cena way too easily. Ok so fair enough a lot of merchandise is sold through Cena but thats doesn't mean he has to be every other WWE Champion. I mean looking ahead to WrestleMania with him and The Rock I just have no idea what will happen. I absolutely idolised The Rock as a child and although am let down that he left the WWE I still respect him now. I don't see that he had any flaws and personally I think they'll try and make it like Hogan/Rock but Cena will never be Hulk Hogan. There's only one very small possibility of a good thing coming out of it and that would be if Cena went into it as the heel. But I really can't see that happening and personally think the WWE will have the fans booing The Rock as he steps out at WrestleMania.
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Post by TJ Black on Aug 12, 2011 23:57:17 GMT -3
As long as Vince is alive you shouldn't even dream of a Cena Heel Turn. He publicly stated that he was against the idea in case it effected merchandise sales.... a classic example of the power money holds in this cynical world. Pesonally I think they should just push it similar to Orton/Punk. A singles match no WWE Title and a good ole fashioned brawl between two WWE icons.
Allow Punk to enter mania as champion and face someone like Chris Jericho. That would be one hell of a main event. The Best in the World at What he Does returns to the WWE to Save_Us from the cult of personality. CM Punk is not the only man who can turn that microphone into pipe bomb nor the only one who can knock Cena's teeth down his throat. Chris Jericho and CM Punk are WWE's only complete package. They both ooze charisma and have so much in ring talent than they know what to do with. Maybe with a World Title Mania match between these two legendary wrestlers we will be able to see 5 Star Mania Match that doesn't involved Undertaker or Shawn Michaels...
Plus with these two main events and a Randy Orton singles match it would enable WWE to give the World Title to an up-and-coming talent. Have a Sheamus Royal Rumble Win and a Christian World Ttitle reign throw in Daniel Bryan and his briefcase and we have ourselves a rather unique triple threat which I personally wouild LOVE to see...
As for Taker they could make him lose to Wade Barrett as a career and gimmick boost. Or give it to Kane in a final ever encounter ending with both men retiring. If it's Kane it would have to be Masked Kane but Wade Barrett... if he defeated Undertaker he would be known as the man who defeated the undertaker at WrestleMania... or he could be known as the Guy who SCREWED the Undertaker out of his final match at WrestleMania Ending his Streak... Imagine the heat he would get showing up the next night live on Raw gloating about the fact that he screwed Taker, he coudl ride that heatwave for an eternity!
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