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Post by President Logan on Oct 7, 2011 12:04:44 GMT -3
Thuganomics Cena. back in 2002/2003 when Cena was busting out rhymes and raps it was fun to watch and also gave a nice fresh character to the WWE. He spoke then of being an underdog and having to go up against it all and come out fighting and did it well. In my opinion some stars just cant handle being at the top for too long and become boring, hence Orton.
Y2J Chris Jericho or SaveUs Chris Jericho?
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Post by TJ Black on Oct 7, 2011 13:48:45 GMT -3
SaveUS Chris Jericho!
Jericho has always been amazing at playing a face and a heel but his work from 2007-2010 is by far his greatest. The heat this guy got during his initial heel turn when he rammed HBK's face into the Jeritron 5000. His long complex words which even I had to google and his endless array of great feuds vs. the likes of Rey Mysterio, Edge and Shawn Michael (And even Ricky the Dragon Steamboat!) are ones that will live on (at least in my memory) for a LONG time. Y2J was great and he can truly do an amazing job at making an entrance (just look at his WWE Debut in 1999 or his return in 2007) But in my opinion he is a much better heel worker than face worker. I wouldn't care if WWE brought him back as either as long as he's back!
Running along a similar line: Legend Killer Orton or Viper Orton?
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Post by President Logan on Oct 7, 2011 19:33:56 GMT -3
Legend Killer Orton. This gimmick was original, new and gave a huge bump to Randy Orton without putting him instantly into the title picture. He could look great fueding with the likes of Hogan, Undertaker etc. and still be in or out of contention for the championship whilst staying on top. New Orton, personally I think it's old fashioned, out used and just boring. Nuff said.
Cody Rhodes or Ted Dibiase Jr.?
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Post by Diego De La Vega on Oct 9, 2011 18:33:25 GMT -3
Cody Rhodes ... Rhodes was flat in his first few years as a face. He turned heel and while being in a big main event group like Legacy really didn't do much besides being Orton's stooges. Moving to Smackdown was probably the best thing for him creatively. Dashing Cody Rhodes was a phenomenal gimmick change and wrestling work has gotten even better. The fued with Mysterio really launched him to another level. His work now is extremely well. His mask is on par now with Bob Orton's cast. I actually look forward to his matches. He seriously needs a face to contend with though for him to build on this before he flattens out again.
Ric Flair or Hulk Hogan?
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Post by President Logan on Oct 9, 2011 18:48:09 GMT -3
Ooh, tricky one ... They both have given so much for to the wrestling world but for me it's gotta be Hogan, by barely an inch. In my opinion, to us wrestling fans, everybody should look at them as pretty equal, maybe even as Flair topping Hogan if you get down to the nitty griitty but Hogan had an affect on the outside world. Hogan hit it bigtime and truly made wrestling what it is today. I mean sure Flair was a 16 time world champiion but he will never be 'The Immortal One'.
American Badass Undertaker or Latest Re-Incarnation Undertaker?
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Post by TJ Black on Oct 9, 2011 18:59:46 GMT -3
American Badass. I love the deadman but to be honest him coming back from the dead about 5 times is possibly the most over the top gimmick in WWE History. His work with as the badass was good and his feuds with Triple H, Ric Flair and Brock Lesnar are testaments to that. On top of this who can forgot Undertaker owning the crowd? In case you did:
He was an awesome heel back then and once he turned face he had some additional great matches against the likes of Brock Lesnar, Big Show and Kurt Angle before ultimately returning to the Deadman. In my opinion he needs to return to the American Badass for his return as his current gimmick is beginning to get stale (at least for me)
Dean Malenko or Chris Benoit...
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Post by President Logan on Oct 9, 2011 19:03:37 GMT -3
Chris Benoit. Was just a great wrestler, performer and entertainer really. I can't say anymore. Gutted how he died and stuff but I will never forget just what he did in that ring.
Cactus Jack or Mankind or Dude Love?
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Post by TJ Black on Oct 9, 2011 19:39:58 GMT -3
Cactus Jack! Dude Love was just terrible... you can't defend that gimmick over his other two... Mankind was great but he was nothing more than a stunt man. Cactus Jack on the other hand was a step further than Mankind, yes he was a stunt man just like Mankind but all Mankind did was absorb shitloads of punishment. Cactus Jack was an entertaining and sadistic son of a bitch! Mankind may have his iconic matches such as Hell in a Cell vs. Undertaker and his Rocky saga but Cactus Jack has countless amounts of memorable matches both in the past (such as Hell in a Cell vs. Triple H) and in present day (Hardcore Match vs. Edge, Hardcore Match with Edge and Lita vs. Funk/Dreamer/Beulah). I will always love Mankind but Cactus Jack was that one ECW Remnant of Foley after WWE loaded him with mass gimmicks. Cactus Jack is the last spark of ECW left and I hope that if... when Foley returns it's under Cactus Jack against The Miz...
Heel Christian (TNA Era) or Face Christian (WWE Era)
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Post by Diego De La Vega on Oct 10, 2011 5:09:40 GMT -3
Heel Christian (TNA) by default .... Christian never really spent much time as a face. Despite his good run as ECW Champion he was just that an ECW Champion. By the time he got to smackdown he got hurt befor having a proper fued with Alberto Del Rio. In TNA at least Christian was seen on par with the likes of Sting, Jarrett, and Angle.
Triple H Evolution (2003 - 2005) v Triple H The Game (1999-2001)
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Post by President Logan on Oct 10, 2011 11:52:57 GMT -3
Triple H evolution. The game was an epic era, I mean hhh n McMahon were possible he beat couple ever but evolution is the best stable of this generation by far. Triple H was an epic leader and with a man like Ric Flair on his side, is it any wonder he had epic fueds during this time? No only did he advance his own career, with his awesome heel personna, but he managed to create 2 huge stars at the same time 'Awesome' The Miz or 'Smackdown Host' The Miz
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Post by Mr. ICW on Oct 10, 2011 12:25:32 GMT -3
Awesome Miz!
I am not a fan of him, or I never did have the respect for him like I have for other wrestlers in the Miz era, but damn...I was interested in watching him with the WWE Title and what he was gonna say or do.
Raven WWE or Raven WCW I could add Raven in ECW as well...pick your poison
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Post by President Logan on Oct 11, 2011 19:40:16 GMT -3
Raven WWE, purely because of the Triple Threat match at WM 17, EPIC.
Shawn Michaels 1990-1997 or Shawn Michaels 2002-2010? (basically before or after bad back) And considering he is my favourite superstar, idol and there is a long space to cover, this answer best be good and well thought.
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Post by Mysery on Oct 24, 2011 18:59:04 GMT -3
I would go with '90-'97
Why? The years that defined his career. You think HBK would have had the same success if he and Jannetty remained a Tag Team? The Rockers were pretty much a ripoff of the Midnight Express anyway.
Chunks Ahoy or Oreo?
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Post by Patrick Steel on Oct 24, 2011 19:42:21 GMT -3
Oreo. Only good Chips Ahoy are chewy.
Masked Kane or unmasked Kane
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Post by President Logan on Oct 25, 2011 20:30:12 GMT -3
Masked for sure.
can you say BEAST MODE! Holy crap! His character lost that 'thing' for me when he took it off. which begs the question...
Isaac Yankem DDS or Glen Jacobs work as 'Fake' characters such as (fake Diesel or fake Undertaker)?
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